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celticdragonfly ([personal profile] celticdragonfly) wrote2006-05-03 09:48 am
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Damn straight they do

[livejournal.com profile] patgund showed this to me:
Study: US mothers deserve $134,121 in salary

[livejournal.com profile] selenite's comment was "right. I'll have to owe you the balance, sorry."

More like a few million, really. . .

[identity profile] newblksusan.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I say they should get at least $500,000 for enduring pregnancy and childbirth.

(if you're wondering how and I why I came to reply to this, I saw this on Tygerr's friend list and it really caught my attention. . .)

And I'm happy someone is finally trying to assign a "salary" to the very hard and demanding work of being a mother. It is a JOB and yet I hear so many folks talk about mothering as if it is NOT work (and that burns me up ----even though I don't have kids. but I have a mother, however and I'm not deaf, blind or dumb. . .)

Thanks for posting this. . .

Re: More like a few million, really. . .

[identity profile] celticdragonfly.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! It's nice to see my job appreciated by someone without children. Far too often it isn't. (I don't object to other people not having children, not at all. But often I find that they then want to vilify me for having done so. Which makes me want to tell them to go take this line of complaint to their own mother.)

It's so hard that our culture doesn't generally value anything that doesn't earn money.

Re: More like a few million, really. . .

[identity profile] newblksusan.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
"It's so hard that our culture doesn't generally value anything that doesn't earn money/"

As an educator, well, I feel that statement 'resembles me" LOL!!! Everyone talks about how important education is, but no one wants to pay teachers much. And you know what? I'm CONVINCED it's because the educational field is, by and large, populated mostly by women.

And thus it just occurred to me that could, therefore, be an "extension" of the bias against mothers as not being true "workers" --- as most every teacher/educator I know, esp. the women, well, sometimes we can't help being surrogate mother types to our students.

So, even though I've never had children (although my doctors say it's not too late for me, but my biological clock IS ticking a bit LOUDLY, I might add! LOL!!!) and I have felt, in so many ways, like a "mother" to so many of my students.

And women who villify stay at home moms are, in my view, narrowminded, stupid (and frequently selfish, self-centered) bitches.

Sorry, but I mean that. It's like some career oriented chicks firmly believe they have some kind of "superiority" over women who choose something else like marriage and family over a career. If I had to do it all over again (I'm 45, mind you), well, I think I would have not bought into the feminist movement as much as I did as I was duped into believing that, well, women could "HAVE IT ALL."

Not really. Women who focus almost exclusively on their careers don't have much time for dating, let alone marriage and the time and dedication it takes to start a family. That's why I even encourage some of my female students to strive for some BALANCE in their lives as in:

"You can ALWAYS pursue a career or profession, but you can't ALWAYS take the time to have a family."

Oh yeah, once the biological clock runs out, it's too late. There's a great short story by Kate Chopin, titled, "Regret" that is very painful for me to read if only because the main character makes such a realization. I will argue that, perhaps, Chopin was also referring to choices she made to focus on herself as a writer and what kind of "trade off" she made as a result. . .

and it IS a trade off to a large extent. I'm glad you know which side you wanted to be on and what offers the MOST value and satisfaction for you and YOUR life. And to hell with what others think. . .

Just my 2 cents. . .

Re: More like a few million, really. . .

[identity profile] kattelyn.livejournal.com 2006-05-04 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
You've heard me go off that you've got one of the hardest jobs out there, and how not everyone (including myself) can do it.... properly at least.

Noo, I can herd 100 geeks... you raise children... your job is MUCH harder, as with mine, at least there's no dirty diapers involved!