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Y'know, for 6.5 mm needles, you'd THINK that 9 mm jump rings would be plenty large enough to put a charm on and have them still fit over the needles for stitch markers.

Certainly I'd thought so. I've been proven wrong. Grrr.

What, do they measure knitting needle mm and jump ring mm in some different ways, or something?

[livejournal.com profile] selenite is being sweet enough to go pick up some groceries, as long as he can stop for dinner out first, and will go to Walmart to see if they have any larger jump rings.

I did get the throw back to the right number of stitches and another row done from that. But I'm still at the point of having made negative progress on it today.

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Date: 2005-05-02 04:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jazz007.livejournal.com
I still love that icon. And, now that Andy has the DVD set, we can track down the scene and amuse ourselves with an enthusiastic River if we want :)

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Date: 2005-05-02 05:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciorstan.livejournal.com
Maybe lobster-claw clasps would be better? I've seen lovely markers made with those-- beads and danglies hanging from the eye end of the claw, which is over the needle.

I like Clover rings and the locking tags, m'self.

jump rings

Date: 2005-05-02 11:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bkseiver.livejournal.com
I use just plain jump rings without charms on most projects. Works great.
No eye candy, just markers.

Re: jump rings

Date: 2005-05-02 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celticdragonfly.livejournal.com
But I *want* the eye candy. I like the pretty. And it soothes my pride, makes me feel I'm doing it for the pretty, not just because I need it...

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Date: 2005-05-02 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joyeuse13.livejournal.com
Maybe they're dog millimeters? ;)

Measuring Jump Rings

Date: 2005-05-02 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] profitne.livejournal.com
What, do they measure knitting needle mm and jump ring mm in some different ways, or something?

Sort of but not really. See, both the knitting needle and the jump ring are being measured by the outside dimension. But it's the +inside+ dimension of the jump ring that counts when you are putting it over a knitting needle. I think if you measure the top loop of the charm you may find it is thicker than you realize.

It doesn't take much difference in jump ring thickness when added to the thickness of the top loops of the charm to quickly bring it down to a size that is too small for the knitting needles.

As for eye candy, I use it on some of my large lace projects because what may be easily visible in the beginning gets lost in the muddle when you are talking about 700+ stitched on a 29" circular needle and knowing EXACTLY where the sections change is important to the pattern.

Profitne

Re: Measuring Jump Rings

Date: 2005-05-02 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celticdragonfly.livejournal.com
You're tougher than me - this is only 177 stitches.

I got 12 mm jump rings today, and they seem to be doing okay. Which is good, since that was the largest I could get without going up to split rings.

Right now I have them every 8 stitches, which is how wide the lace repeat is. But having just done one row, it's a terrible nuisance. I'm wondering if I could get by with every 2 or 3 repeats of the lace having a marker.

I have a row marker at the last spot - 12 rings looped in a row with a charm from the bottom-most, as it's a 12 row repeat.

Re: Measuring Jump Rings

Date: 2005-05-02 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] profitne.livejournal.com
Right now I have them every 8 stitches, which is how wide the lace repeat is. But having just done one row, it's a terrible nuisance. I'm wondering if I could get by with every 2 or 3 repeats of the lace having a marker.


Boggles! I don't use a stitch marker for every repeat of a pattern unless it is a very large and complicated repeat - like 50+ stitches. Instead I use a stitch marker at every place the pattern changes - edges, beginning of the row in circular knitting, outer edges of short rows, places where in future I will be dividing the item into sections, or places where there is a tendency for me to make a mistake the first couple of times through the pattern rows. These are places where I need to pay attention to make sure my repeats are correct in every row.

I agree doing a stitch marker every eight stitches would be wearing in a real hurry.

OTOH, on my previoius gig, a wonderful woman taught me n ot only how to do continental stitch, but also how to knit in reverse. Not as difficult as it sounds, and if you are doind a lace pattern with stiched that change on every row, it helps you see how the lace is going together and catch some mistakes before they happen.

Profitne

Re: Measuring Jump Rings

Date: 2005-05-03 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celticdragonfly.livejournal.com
I moved them out to every 4 repeats. And now that I'm following the chart, not the directions, they stay still and are much more help.

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